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Wednesday, February 14, 2007

Personhood

I've been thinking about the age old problem of personhood. An intuitive place to start is that which we do not share with animals. That is, characteristics that are not just sophisticated extensions of animal traits, like intelligence, creativity and humour. Possibly language as a phenomena falls into this catagory, since its animal counterpart is communication in the form of sqwarks and growls. Jeremy and I were discussing this topic, and he thinks there's an awful lot we share with animals, much more than we think. I think I agree, that the apex of humaness is really the only defining quality of personhood.

I think this takes us to consciousness (do animals have this? Who knows? Is there any way to find out that does not beg the question?) and more narrowly to a kind of agency or the Greek concept of nous (Aristotle's definition, sans the passive part). This is something we can only observe internally, and so our guess that animals don't have nous is as good as our guess that other humans have nous. For the moment, let's just assume that this is a good guess.

Nous must be more narrowly defined then mind. This is because there's a lot in our minds that we seem to have no control over; images induced by suggestion, the inability to redesign the house in a daydream and certain habits of thinking that we fall into that psychiatrists try to cure us of. I've just described the view of our mind from the inside, as if it is stuff just like our bodies are stuff. Yet nous is distinct from our minds when we describe it naturalistically, as I've just done. Nous is "control central" that is the apex of personhood, but is only best described by negation. It is the ultimate non-natural, it exists over and above the natural, it gives meaning.

On the other hand, why must personhood be limited to pure agency and spontenaity (in Kant's sense)? Why can't we have a nebulous defintion of personhood? Indeed, on such a narrow defintion, large parts of humanity seem to be excluded from personhood. The mentally handicapped, unborn babies, and possible all humans up to the age where one starts to control even their own thoughts, and this can happen quite late; up to the age of 21 and beyond!

But then again, perhaps nous is helpful to catagorically define personhood. Perhaps its true that the types of humans excluded from personhood do not manifest what we think nous should manifest. But this probably misses the point. The whole idea of nous is that its not a natural phenomena to be observed in humans. It is a ruling aspect of the world. So, we can include all humans as persons because, catagorically, the only place (apart from God) where nous is to be found is in humans. Of course, I don't really like the phrasing there, as "to be found" still implies a naturalness to nous.

However, a catagorical definition starts to smell circular. Perhaps we should try an entirely different tack and define personhood from the outside, arms, legs...no that doesn't work. Or simply throw it in the "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it" basket, which is getting really full, what with Time, Language and Beauty already in there.

And it's a pretty important question, and fully deserving of seemingly nit-picking discussion; we can't go around in life taking for granted ethical questions.

7 Comments:

  • I think we overemphasise the personhood of animals by anthropomorphising them. Even scientists have done this repeatedly.

    Which means I can't even imagine the techniques you'd need to investigate the personhood of animals in an unbiased way.

    "If a lion could talk, we could not understand him" -- Wittgenstein

    By Blogger Radagast, At 5:11 PM  

  • Perhaps its not even possible? My imagination is stretched here too.

    I think Anthropomorphism is what we do when we claim animals have feelings etc, but it's also kind of what we do with other people (assuming a kind of scepticism about language), but maybe call it Egopomorphsim (did I just confuse Latin and Greek there?). Of course, that's a pretty hardcore philosophical position I'm toying with there.

    Good W quote.

    By Blogger The Borg, At 5:41 PM  

  • MS,

    In considering personhood we must begin with man as created in the image of God, that is, in the image of the Trinity. That image necessitates relationality, uniqueness, and a myriad of other things. As persons, our personhood is realized in relation to other persons and Persons.

    The similarities between man and animals point to a common Creator and are not problematic. We are distinct in that we are the crown of creation to whom had been committed its stewardship.

    That's my 1/2 cent contribution, anyway.

    Jason K

    By Anonymous Anonymous, At 6:01 PM  

  • Thank you Jason. That opens up a new facet to this discussion. I'll get back to you soon.

    By Blogger The Borg, At 7:11 PM  

  • Yes, "egopomorphism" is what we do to other people, but it's justified -- those other creatures on two legs really ARE people like me. It seems to be a God-given instinct to "egopomorphise", and one that can be fooled (e.g. by computers).

    By Blogger Radagast, At 12:44 PM  

  • In what way is "egopomorphism" justified over and above "anthropomorphism" other than the obvious "looks like a human being"? You can probably appeal to language, how is this qualitatively different to sqwarks and grunts?

    By Blogger The Borg, At 2:42 PM  

  • You discover that insects have self-awareness when you try to swat them.

    I think the secondary difference between us and "animals" is that we do the same things, we just do it bigger and better. Like Americans.

    The primary difference, of course, is that we look different...

    But to address the problem of some people not being able to have the same exotic mental capacities as Helmut the Hun, let us consider the crayfish, in a purely Zoidberg manner. What needs to be pointed out is that a crayfish is incapable of walking when you rip off its ten legs, yet it still has the same inherent Zoidbergness as Zoidberg himself. This is obvious. The incapacitated crayfish, despite being disowned as a teenager as it went through that dark goth stage was always a crayfish.

    I will bow as I have successfully convoluted the obvious.

    Adieu.

    By Blogger BSJ-rom, At 10:37 PM  

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